June 7, 2010

S.E. Cupp & Cory Booker Beat Maher in Religion Battle (VIDEO)

h/t Big Hollywood & Newsbusters.

From a recent “Real Time” segment, this battle over religion commenced. Bill got the worst of it, both from self-avowed atheist S.E. Cupp, and Mayor of Newark, NJ, Cory Booker, who is himself a Christian.

Partial transcript, courtesy Brad Schaeffer of Big Hollywood:

Maher: [Religion] causes most wars: The Crusades, the inquisition, 9/11, honor Killings…”

Cupp: “No that’s factually not true.”

Booker: “Humans…humans cause war.”


Cupp: “Religion doesn’t kill people…people kill people.”

Booker: “We’ve been known to start wars over everything from natural resources to land, to religion—“

Cupp: “Colonialism, tribalism.”

Booker: “—we start wars.”

Maher: “The justification for most of that is religion.”

Cupp: “No it’s not.”

Maher: “Of course it is…What gets normal people to think it’s okay to kill other people is religion…very little else….”

Cupp: “Or colonialism, or land power grabs, or nativism…”

Maher: “Mostly religion. Ethnic cleansing, honor rape…”

Cupp: “Hitler, Pol Pot Mao, Stalin, not in the name of religion.“

Maher: “Were state religions. [Puzzled looks from panel] Of course they were.”

Cupp: “Communism is a state religion?”

Maher: “Absolutely. You never heard that?”

Cupp: “I think we’re talking about different things.”

Maher: “We’re not. We’re just talking different labels.”

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    *ouch*. State religion: simply a dogmatic believe in an ideology, and that's what communism was. A perverted version of Marxism, taken to fundamentalist extremes. Certain basic ideas of Marx weren't that bad, but one may not forget to be open about argument and criticism.
    See now the connection between e.g. the Catholic Church, Evangelic Fundamentalists, Islamic Fundamentalists?
    All having a hard time with criticism. All claiming to be infallible and just true.
    And I try hard to refrain from mentioning why Cupp seems so odd (even probably flat out lying?) to most atheists.

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