Comments on: O’Reilly, Graham & Lieberman On Detainee Photos (VIDEO) http://www.msunderestimated.com/2009/06/oreilly-graham-lieberman-on-detainee-photos-video/ Reality Bytes Thu, 09 Feb 2012 16:41:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: mark http://www.msunderestimated.com/2009/06/oreilly-graham-lieberman-on-detainee-photos-video/comment-page-1/#comment-118597 mark Fri, 12 Jun 2009 19:33:18 +0000 http://msunderestimated.com/?p=3707#comment-118597 You are against the release of the photos but you support the content of the photos? Nice moral tightrope act. First, as a supposed Christian, if you were true to your faith, you would be outraged at the content, not the discussion of it. Then again, you may have learned this technique from the Catholic church child abuse scandals of the past fifty years, where if a priest molests a child in California, rather than expose him and give The Church bad publicity, you simply transfer him and sweep it under the rug. The molestations continue and there are no consequences for the abhorrent behavior. <br><br>In this case, you support the content of the photos but not to have to publicly acknowledge what is happening in the photos. <br><br>A real American would either support what is happening in the pictures or condemn it - and then face the consequences either way. In other words, if the content of the photos is going to endanger our soldiers lives, stop participating in such actions. <br> <br>From what I understand, at least some of the photographs depict rape on both male and female detainees. You support raping these people but are against releasing the photos of the rape? <br><br>If as you claim, showing the abuse incites them to fight us, why are using this approach and more importantly, why are we taking pictures of it? <br><br>if this is how we are choosing to treat them, and you support the treatment, why is it bad to let them know what awaits them if they fight us and get captured? <br><br>The answer is simple (and this applies to everything you do in your lifetime)- when you do something, stand behind what you are doing, believe in it and always be prepared to defend it publicly. If what you are doing is shameful or harmful to others, stop doing it or face the consequences. You are against the release of the photos but you support the content of the photos? Nice moral tightrope act. First, as a supposed Christian, if you were true to your faith, you would be outraged at the content, not the discussion of it. Then again, you may have learned this technique from the Catholic church child abuse scandals of the past fifty years, where if a priest molests a child in California, rather than expose him and give The Church bad publicity, you simply transfer him and sweep it under the rug. The molestations continue and there are no consequences for the abhorrent behavior.

In this case, you support the content of the photos but not to have to publicly acknowledge what is happening in the photos.

A real American would either support what is happening in the pictures or condemn it – and then face the consequences either way. In other words, if the content of the photos is going to endanger our soldiers lives, stop participating in such actions.

From what I understand, at least some of the photographs depict rape on both male and female detainees. You support raping these people but are against releasing the photos of the rape?

If as you claim, showing the abuse incites them to fight us, why are using this approach and more importantly, why are we taking pictures of it?

if this is how we are choosing to treat them, and you support the treatment, why is it bad to let them know what awaits them if they fight us and get captured?

The answer is simple (and this applies to everything you do in your lifetime)- when you do something, stand behind what you are doing, believe in it and always be prepared to defend it publicly. If what you are doing is shameful or harmful to others, stop doing it or face the consequences.

]]> By: mark http://www.msunderestimated.com/2009/06/oreilly-graham-lieberman-on-detainee-photos-video/comment-page-1/#comment-117784 mark Fri, 12 Jun 2009 14:33:18 +0000 http://msunderestimated.com/?p=3707#comment-117784 You are against the release of the photos but you support the content of the photos? Nice moral tightrope act. First, as a supposed Christian, if you were true to your faith, you would be outraged at the content, not the discussion of it. Then again, you may have learned this technique from the Catholic church child abuse scandals of the past fifty years, where if a priest molests a child in California, rather than expose him and give The Church bad publicity, you simply transfer him and sweep it under the rug. The molestations continue and there are no consequences for the abhorrent behavior. <br><br>In this case, you support the content of the photos but not to have to publicly acknowledge what is happening in the photos. <br><br>A real American would either support what is happening in the pictures or condemn it - and then face the consequences either way. In other words, if the content of the photos is going to endanger our soldiers lives, stop participating in such actions. <br> <br>From what I understand, at least some of the photographs depict rape on both male and female detainees. You support raping these people but are against releasing the photos of the rape? <br><br>If as you claim, showing the abuse incites them to fight us, why are using this approach and more importantly, why are we taking pictures of it? <br><br>if this is how we are choosing to treat them, and you support the treatment, why is it bad to let them know what awaits them if they fight us and get captured? <br><br>The answer is simple (and this applies to everything you do in your lifetime)- when you do something, stand behind what you are doing, believe in it and always be prepared to defend it publicly. If what you are doing is shameful or harmful to others, stop doing it or face the consequences. You are against the release of the photos but you support the content of the photos? Nice moral tightrope act. First, as a supposed Christian, if you were true to your faith, you would be outraged at the content, not the discussion of it. Then again, you may have learned this technique from the Catholic church child abuse scandals of the past fifty years, where if a priest molests a child in California, rather than expose him and give The Church bad publicity, you simply transfer him and sweep it under the rug. The molestations continue and there are no consequences for the abhorrent behavior.

In this case, you support the content of the photos but not to have to publicly acknowledge what is happening in the photos.

A real American would either support what is happening in the pictures or condemn it – and then face the consequences either way. In other words, if the content of the photos is going to endanger our soldiers lives, stop participating in such actions.

From what I understand, at least some of the photographs depict rape on both male and female detainees. You support raping these people but are against releasing the photos of the rape?

If as you claim, showing the abuse incites them to fight us, why are using this approach and more importantly, why are we taking pictures of it?

if this is how we are choosing to treat them, and you support the treatment, why is it bad to let them know what awaits them if they fight us and get captured?

The answer is simple (and this applies to everything you do in your lifetime)- when you do something, stand behind what you are doing, believe in it and always be prepared to defend it publicly. If what you are doing is shameful or harmful to others, stop doing it or face the consequences.

]]> By: mark http://www.msunderestimated.com/2009/06/oreilly-graham-lieberman-on-detainee-photos-video/comment-page-1/#comment-117428 mark Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:33:18 +0000 http://msunderestimated.com/?p=3707#comment-117428 You are against the release of the photos but you support the content of the photos? Nice moral tightrope act. First, as a supposed Christian, if you were true to your faith, you would be outraged at the content, not the discussion of it. Then again, you may have learned this technique from the Catholic church child abuse scandals of the past fifty years, where if a priest molests a child in California, rather than expose him and give The Church bad publicity, you simply transfer him and sweep it under the rug. The molestations continue and there are no consequences for the abhorrent behavior. <br><br>In this case, you support the content of the photos but not to have to publicly acknowledge what is happening in the photos. <br><br>A real American would either support what is happening in the pictures or condemn it - and then face the consequences either way. In other words, if the content of the photos is going to endanger our soldiers lives, stop participating in such actions. <br> <br>From what I understand, at least some of the photographs depict rape on both male and female detainees. You support raping these people but are against releasing the photos of the rape? <br><br>If as you claim, showing the abuse incites them to fight us, why are using this approach and more importantly, why are we taking pictures of it? <br><br>if this is how we are choosing to treat them, and you support the treatment, why is it bad to let them know what awaits them if they fight us and get captured? <br><br>The answer is simple (and this applies to everything you do in your lifetime)- when you do something, stand behind what you are doing, believe in it and always be prepared to defend it publicly. If what you are doing is shameful or harmful to others, stop doing it or face the consequences. You are against the release of the photos but you support the content of the photos? Nice moral tightrope act. First, as a supposed Christian, if you were true to your faith, you would be outraged at the content, not the discussion of it. Then again, you may have learned this technique from the Catholic church child abuse scandals of the past fifty years, where if a priest molests a child in California, rather than expose him and give The Church bad publicity, you simply transfer him and sweep it under the rug. The molestations continue and there are no consequences for the abhorrent behavior.

In this case, you support the content of the photos but not to have to publicly acknowledge what is happening in the photos.

A real American would either support what is happening in the pictures or condemn it – and then face the consequences either way. In other words, if the content of the photos is going to endanger our soldiers lives, stop participating in such actions.

From what I understand, at least some of the photographs depict rape on both male and female detainees. You support raping these people but are against releasing the photos of the rape?

If as you claim, showing the abuse incites them to fight us, why are using this approach and more importantly, why are we taking pictures of it?

if this is how we are choosing to treat them, and you support the treatment, why is it bad to let them know what awaits them if they fight us and get captured?

The answer is simple (and this applies to everything you do in your lifetime)- when you do something, stand behind what you are doing, believe in it and always be prepared to defend it publicly. If what you are doing is shameful or harmful to others, stop doing it or face the consequences.

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