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Behar: Iran Didn’t Come Meddle in The 2000 Bush V. Gore Election, So Why Should We Meddle In Theirs? (VIDEO)

June 22, 2009 Appeasement, Are You Kidding Me?, Corruption, Elections, Exposing Liberal Bias, Fascism, Hypocrisy At Its Finest, Iran, Islamofascists, Just Plain Wrong, Liberal Bed-Wetters, Obama, President Bush, Protests, STFU, The View, Tragedy, Video, War on Freedom View Comments

Yes, she went there. She surely did. Boy, this was a heated back and forth, and Elisabeth really got in some good points. The only thing she missed was to point out that Obama sent Joe Biden to monitor the elections in Lebanon, so do we now get to pick and choose where we meddle?

Anyway, for Joy to compare what the Iranian people are suffering to the 2000 Bush V. Gore election is just outrageous. Absolutely slimy and an attempt at piss-poor moral equivalency. And the harp seals in the audience dutifully applauded to all the anti-Bush lines. Including Behar’s final jab asserting that since we elected Obama, Iranians no longer chant “Death to America.” She thinks Obama fixed all that. Oh, really Joy? Really? You are one classless individual.

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Kevin

I don't doubt your bona fides with regard to the Iranian people, but what is the goal of "supporting Iran"? Is it to put Mousavi in power? Would that be a good thing? The election of Hamas has shown that universal suffrage is no guarantee of political stability.

The establishment of parliamentary elections in Iraq was a sensible response to the power vacuum created by the removal of Saddam, based on the model of Germany and Japan post-World War II. But there is a key difference between then and now: post-World War II the Nazi Party and Emperor-worship were abolished. Had these latter two forces remained in place, universal suffrage could have provided moral support to the very regimes we had fought for years to defeat.

MsUnderestimated

It's not about Mousavi anymore; in fact, it has not been since about the 3rd
day. It's about FREEDOM.

Kevin

Is there a specifc goal, though, or is this anarchy? I mean, when the Czar was toppled, what replaced him was, by most accounts I imagine, worse.

Kevin

Come to think of it, perhaps a better, or at least more recent, example would be Castro, who made a popular visit to the US in 1959. Even Chavez was democratically elected.

MsUnderestimated

Perhaps, but let's say Mousavi was put in. The people would DEMAND he give
them what they want, because he would owe it to them. Quite frankly, I've
heard from several scholars that Mousavi has changed in recent years. Who
knows? But the current regime is illegitimate as it stands.

Kevin

Wasn't the Shah overthrown by the popular Iranian Revolution of 1979, which ushered in the current theocracy?

As far as the US is concerned, its surest foundation is in Christian morality rather than secular democracy.

MsUnderestimated

I'm just saying, the Iranian people no longer want a dictator. They're
saying it; not me.

mark

i have no idea what pat dollards's website is. you can read americablog, crooks and liars, dailykos, which is where you will find contributions from all over the internet and where i found it.

above all, avoid the message, attack the messenger.

harass women? i have never made a sexist or gender based comment towards ms. or anyone else. the answer is no and if so, please correct me.

the self loathing women of the republican party are not my concern. if you choose to let men decide what rights you have and that you agree you are not worth equal pay for equal work, among other things, i would hardly be the one to try to convince you otherwise.

i think you all can understand cartoons

http://www.salon.com/comics/tomo/2009/06/23/tomo/

Lobogris

"above all, avoid the message, attack the messenger."

If I had wanted to attack the messenger, I would have attacked "Time Magazine's Joe Klein". Worm.

Here's one for you. www.reclusiveleftist.com. Go see how they feel about your precious messiah. While you're there, try and explain "the self loathing women of the republican party." FYI...it is not, and has never been, a right-wing blog site. Worm.

mark

You want Obama to intervene? The United States supported Saddam Hussein in the Iran/Iraq war for eight years. Every one of those protesters out in the streets knows the United States supplied Saddam Hussein with the poison gas that has debilitated tens of thousands of Iranian men. They also blame America as Bush identified them as part of the Axis of Evil with two countries that they hate - Iraq and North Koreans. For the President of the United States to encourage the protesters does nothing except to give the Iranian regime a better excuse for killing more of them.

Aside from that, if the freedoms they want are against the conservative agenda, you would want their freedoms taken right back. Your Democracy comes with conditions, which is why your version of Democracy is in tatters and rejected by the majority of our country.

Lobogris

The measured manner of Obama’s response, while criticized by some, has been described as essential by many foreign policy observers. On Monday night, Time Magazine’s Joe Klein applauded the president for his approach. And when asked about earlier McCain’s remarks, he urged the Arizona Republican to stop talking.

“Be quiet,” said Klein. “You don’t need to do this. You know? You know what you’re doing is a self-indulgent at this point. Sen. McCain, if he’s going to talk about this, should also talk about the fact that the United States supported Saddam Hussein in the Iran/Iraq war for eight years. Every one of those protesters out in the streets, every last one of them believes the United States supplied Saddam Hussein with the poison gas that has debilitated tens of thousands of Iranian men.”

I borrowed this little gem from Pat Dollard's site. But I didn't paraphrase to make it look like it was my idea. Marc likes to harass MsUnderestimated. Probably because she's a woman. But he doesn't have the balls to post on Pat's site. What. A. Worm.

MsUnderestimated

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mark

The people in Iran are in the streets looking for change and hope.

The people in the streets of Iran protesting the election are considered liberals there.

Welcome to the human race.

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