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March 9, 2009

Frank Schaeffer on D.L. Hughley (VIDEO)

Sunday night, Frank Schaeffer was on D.L. Hughley’s CNN show to talk about his father Francis Schaeffer, Michael Steele, the Republican party, and blogging for Huffington Post. Schaeffer trashed Rush Limbaugh, inferring that he was not the true leader of the party, saying the party needed to lose some of its conservative and religious beliefs.

From the show’s transcript:

HUGHLEY: And you have said some — you do blog for the Huffington Post. You have written some things and I have read you for a little while. You have written some things that I never heard anybody say out loud. You said the Republican base is now made up of religious and neoconservative ideologues and the uneducated white underclass was a token person of color or up two up in front of the “TV to obscure the all-white, all reactionary, all backward, and there is no global warming, rube reality. Actual conservatives, let alone the educated class have long since fled.” You believe everybody in the Republican Party is a neocon or an ideologue.

SCHAEFFER: I’d put it differently. I’d say the Republican Party knows that’s who that their base is. There are individuals, private citizens …

HUGHLEY: You mean elected people.

SCHAEFFER: I’m talking either the elected people fall into one of those two categories. Either they are pandering to the religious right — I don’t know what they believe, of course. I can’t get into their head. They are pandering to the religion out right or they are pandering to the neocons to whom every war is a good war. And there is very little room in between.

And the people, for instance like William F. Buckley, who was a friend of my dad’s, or Barry Goldwater. You could have disagreed or agreed with them. But these were not crazy people. These were not Fruit Loops.

HUGHLEY: They wanted a separation of church and state.

SCHAEFFER: Right. They wanted a separation of church and state. They were not using politics to beat people over the head with a moral crusade. They were not looking to start wars for no reason. We moved from a period where the Republicans represented something you could agree or disagree with, to a period where it represents a kind of fundamentalist Christianity on one side and a view of the world, which sees everyone who is other, whether that is black, white, Arab, Muslim, a different country, gay, as the enemy. And basically that’s a very dangerous position.

And so I think when you look at a guy like Rush Limbaugh today, what you’re seeing is the lid off. This is the raw, naked true face of where Republicanism is. And be my guest, if people want to vote for that, fine. We just had eight years of this that drove us over the cliff and you want to keep going over the clip, fine. But as far as I’m concerned, the greatest miracle, speaking of God because I’m still a religious person what has happened happen ed in any lifetime, is the election of Barack Obama. Who I think is in a position to genuinely turn this country around. It’s going to take a while but I’m tremendously optimistic about what he can do.

HUGHLEY: That’s an amazing thing. In your letter. You wrote an open letter to President Obama. You asked him not to even count on Republican backing.

SCHAEFFER: Right.

HUGHLEY: You say that they hate him.

SCHAEFFER: They do hate him.

HUGHLEY: They hate him.

SCHAEFFER: They do hate him.

HUGHLEY: That’s pretty strong.

SCHAEFFER: Rush Limbaugh’s telling the truth when he says he wants him to fail. These people are ideological enough that they would rather take our whole country down and be proven right than be patriotic Americans and stand up and do the thing that every American ought to do right now, which is support the president, whether you voted for him or not.

What a scam. Schaeffer is a full-on sell-out.

  • http://fishwrangler.blogspot.com/ snaggletoothie

    It is funny to watch someone who denigrates the education of his opposition himself talk like an uneducated fool. He throws out a stream of accusations with absolutely no evidence. He misquotes Rush Limbaugh. Implies that Republicans want to start wars for no reason (sans evidence). His obvious disregard for the truth and the excited noises most of what he says generates from the crowd leads me to conclude that his audience are the ones that lack education. And they also seem uninformed. But they were happy as hell to be told what they want to hear.

  • DocHollidayAZ

    “These people are ideological enough that they would rather take our whole country down and be proven right than be patriotic Americans and stand up and do the thing that every American ought to do right now, which is support the president, whether you voted for him or not.”

    I'd like to see Schaeffer try and explain away lib protest placards like “I (Heart) NY Even More WITHOUT the World Trade Center” from zombietime.com's Hall Of Shame. That picture was taken in 2004, in San Francisco. I believe George W. Bush was our President at that time.

    There were also quite a few “Fuck The Troops” banners used for anti-war protest marches later. The troops they claim to love and support so much, Unlike the mission.

  • mark

    actually, the ones with the f*ck the troops signs were a tiny majority and just wackos, which every group has. both sides would agree, it was a pathetic display.

    the difference is, the guy who has the most popular conservative radio show in america is rooting for the president for fail and by association, the country and it's citizens well being to become worse.

    these things are not equal. the occasional freak was dismissed as cowardly by both sides.
    limbaugh is being championed by the right. there's a huge difference.

    the cheering at the cpac was exactly what the democrats wanted.

    limbaugh's views are ugly and for every 1 in 5 who worship him, 1 in 5 doesn't know who he is and 3 out of five are offended by him.

    in short, 20% = all aboard the SS Oxycontin Republican Fail Boat. Toot toot!

  • mark

    also, this might make a great post……..

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,506849,00.html

    More Americans Say They Have No Religion

  • DocHollidayAZ

    A “tiny majority”. O-k. Well, there's a whole new kind of libspeak that I'm unfamiliar with. In my world, you either Have the majority or you don't. Your majority represents you. So I'll have to get back to ya' on that one.

    Btw, I don't remember watching or reading Any news stories in the MSM or alternative media about the non-wacko libs killing themselves to tear such “F*ck The Troops” or “I (Heart) NY..” displays out of the loony libs hands because it would reflect badly on the democrat party? Wonder Why.

    The same cannot be said about conservatives or so-called conservatives and Rush though. If they don't like what he has, he's gonna hear about it, and vice-versa.

    So you see, ours is Not the Jackbooted, Lockstep, Localism (nee Fairness Doctrine) Stalinist Party. That would be…

    Oh yeah, and you can forget the 1 in 5 Americans not knowing who Rush is, after Obama decided to make him issue #1 on his agenda. Add Santelli, Cramer and Hannity to
    that list as well. They make for Great distractions while he's sh*t-canning our national security and economy – with some of the MSM's help.

    As for the SS Oxycontin. Last I heard, Oxy was taken by mouth. The toot-tooting and smoking of hard street drugs is something Barky is more familiar with. At least according to one Larry Sinclair.

  • Dingbatter

    “What a scam. Schaeffer is a full-on sell-out.”

    Bye Bye bigots and hypocrites see you after 2012, if you survive of course, lemmings!

  • Dingbatter

    “What a scam. Schaeffer is a full-on sell-out.”

    Bye Bye bigots and hypocrites see you after 2012, if you survive of course, lemmings!

  • Dingbatter

    “What a scam. Schaeffer is a full-on sell-out.”

    Bye Bye bigots and hypocrites see you after 2012, if you survive of course, lemmings!

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