July 31, 2007

Let’s Talk About Dog-Fighting & Michael Vick (VIDEO)

Okay, the Rev. Al was on O’Reilly tonight, and he’s talking about “let’s not judge Michael Vick until he’s convicted.” What? Is this the same Rev. Al. who lead the charge against the Duke LaCrosse players BEFORE they were adjudicated guilty? Yep, that be the same Rev. Al. Except this time, the defendant is black. And rich. And a superstar athlete. Do I have to investigate why the NAACP is sticking up for Michael Vick as well?

Now, let me tell you what I know about dog-fighting, which I’ve not seen many other places. I used to be the founder and president of a non-profit animal welfare organization, and I was a certified animal cruelty investigator. These dog fights are not just some “blood sport” for sick individuals; it’s almost always an organized gang thing (or backwoods country hillbilly thing), but the admission price is an average of $500 per spectator to see this vicious act. After the entry price, most attendees can buy drugs, prostitutes, or bet on the dog fights. It really doesn’t matter to these miscreants, because the only thing they care about is their machismo and the money. The purses can be huge, and it is true the losing dogs, or dogs who refuse to fight, are often brutally killed after the fights. It’s almost like a Middle Eastern honor killing in that the spectators will know that the “weak,” losing dog will no longer produce any “weak” offspring. Lovely, eh? Selective breeding they call it.

I’ve personally found dog pits with blood literally all over every wall of the pit, and needles, coke spoons, used condoms, and whatever else you can think of. I’ve seen dogs who only want to play with other dogs when they try to break them on each other, and it’s not a pretty ending.


The “joys” of dog-fighting

Training facilities include enclosed treadmills, where Pit Bulls are tied up to a treadmill handle and made to run until they get exhausted. I’ve found undercover video from some of those training facilities, and one of the most brutal parts of training is the ginny mill. If you don’t know what a ginny mill is, just go back to that pony ride you went on at the local county fair where ponies were harnessed to individual rungs on a wheel where you rode around in circles. With dogs, the ginny mill is used to increase their blood-lust and endurance. The dog is tied to one rung of the ginny mill just after getting a bite or “taste” of a kitten or rabbit. The kitten or rabbit is then strapped right on the rung in front of them or two ahead, and the dog has to run around and around and around until it’s exhausted. Once the dog has run all it can and proves its endurance, it’s given the kitten or the rabbit as a “reward” for going for so long.

And the syringes of which I spoke earlier? Not just for the crack, cocaine and heroine users at the spectacle, but also for the steroids and pain-killers for the dogs.

Another thing is when folks meet these qualified fight dogs is that the dog is required by the rules to be friendly towards humans. Otherwise they are not often used in organized dog-fighting, and part of that reason is that the perception of animal control officers or cops is “oh, that dog is nice!” not knowing the dog has been trained to be that way towards humans, but absolutely brutal to other dogs.

These dogs are not vicious by nature; they are bred and made that way by the people who buy and raise (and train) them. People like Michael Vick. There is no excuse for this behavior. I’m doing some digging now to see if I can find out what Vick’s gang affiliation is, because I have a strong suspicion he has one. Allegedly.

In the meantime, here’s a situation in which I’d like to see Michael Vick:

And let’s not forget these lovely parting shots that Michael Vick gave his own fans here in Atlanta not too long ago.

Watch Fat Albert Sharpton on O’Reilly here.

  • orion’s mom

    I remember several years ago when I ran into a Mexican around the Iowa border. He was hunting with his son. Good for him. Great bonding time and father son even better. But it turns out he was into Cock fighting. Looking at this dimwit chicken man I had one thought come to mind. What’s the matter Jose not man enough to do your own fighting? Out of respect for the bonding experience I didn’t say anything in front of the boy.

    But it occurred to me then and now that these animal fighting people are, well cowards.

    On to dogs. Who in their right mind owns a pit bull. Well I’ll tell you who. They are inner city peoples the never had a father to raise and protect them.

    Regardless the prick should be hung.

    • animal

      thats bs. I know a man who has fought dogs in his country where it is legal and Im sure he would kick your ass in no time for calling him a coward.

      • http://MsUnderestimated.com MsUnderestimated

        Well, what's holding him up? Let him come here and try to kick my ass. That will be a laugh riot! What an idiot you are.

    • Justme

      Well in response to your comment, i am a grown man living in the suburbs and engaged, i own a American Pit Bull Terrier and i also own a Rottweiler. I have a father and a mother. I mentor kids and i also work for the Humane Society. I find that the statement you made was rather cruel and stereotypical. And if i read between the lines its rather close to racist.

  • Sara Cooper

    Ms. Underestimated,

    I wanted to let you know I used you as a reference in my blog re this topic. I gave you full credit, and forgive me for not being good enough with html tags to make a simple link. I hope you will take a look at mine as I did find some data on Vick;s ability to re-enter the hallowed halls of the NFL regardless of the lifetime ban.

    Thank you for being such a great source.

    Sara Cooper

    • Sara Cooper

      forgot to include my blog address– it is

      randomthoughtsrandomtopics.blogspot.com

      I think. Still getting use to html etc.

      Anyway, thanks again for the photos expressing the real face of Vick's sport.

  • Autumn

    Vick the Dick! I sure would love to see his ass in the ring with a fighting dog!! Along with all the others out there who belong to these organizations! Fuck You to Vick!! I hope someone in prison takes full advantage of you to you little bitch!!

  • http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0WTefUc0cdIaAcA9nujzbkF/SIG=13ao7uo8h/EXP=1221141148/**http%3A//msunderestimated.com/2007/07/31/lets-talk-about-dog-fighting-michael-vick-video rika

    what kind of sick ass motherfuckers would do some shit like this… i dont like dogs but damn… that shit is nasty as hell… fucking sick as ppl…

  • Mark

    No, the only Dog(s) that Should ever be sent to absolutely just attack THAT SON OF A BITCH…sould be Rottweilers. My Rottweiler, King, spent more then 4-Months in the Kennel (where my mother's an Active Animal Control Officer) the ACO's used to just let King (my Rottweiler), Buster (my Hybrid Canadian Black-Wolf/German Shepard), & Amber (my buddy AJ's Female, Full-Sized Pitbull with a pretty mean temperment) run free in a Large area that was about 50-Feet Long by about 75-Feet Wide (with 10-Foot High Fencing All the way Around), & they always used to let all 3 dogs run loose in there, & I'll tell you, If we were talking each of the 3 dogs I mentioned in the most Peak physical condition all met at once, IF there was an Altercation beween the 3 dogs, Buster (my Hybrid Canadian Black Wolf/German Shepard) would've ruled the whole 3-Dog Pack….but looking at that logically, that's not just a normal dog either, Buster was like 13-Years Older then the other 2 Dogs, so at that point in his life, he just found a shady spot & slept & wanted the other two to just leave him alone…he was like the Jedi Master of the 3 but of the two other types of dogs, you have to understand, that EVEN THOUGH (for example) a Pitbull's Jaws could just Tear a Guy's arm OFF…The Rottweiler's Jaw Power can f-ing CRUSH EVERY-SINGLE Bone in the arm that the teeth make any Contact with in under 5-Seconds, Crush the Closely SURROUNDING BONES….and THEN Tear the arm off…

  • Rebecca Layser

    I am a true dog lover, It makes me sick to see these dogs in these conditions. i hope Micheal Vick and other trainers have to go in a ring with all the angry Pitbulls that were ever used to fight.

    Age 14

  • steve

    It's true that some dumbasses treat thier dogs with cruelty . My brother has raised Pitts for the last fifteen years, he doesnt fight his animals, isnt cruel to them, hell, thry're family pets and members of their family.
    I think these dick heads doing the dog fighting should have their asses ripped from their bodys and handed to them. These ass holes piss me off.! And fuck michael vic!!

  • Tatiana

    Vick , just like you stook everything away from your dogs…. the same should be done 2 u cause people like u never change… your heartless and deserve to be punished….

    • JOHNTLOPEZ

      THERE IS ONLY ONE THING THAT WILL GET TO A GUY LIKE VICK , HIS OWN EGO , WHEN HE SITS DOWN , AND ASK FOR SOME KIND OF FORGIVENESS , FOR ALL THE WRONG DOING S HE HAS SET FORTH , IT WILL TAKE MORE THAN A LIFETIME, WHAT MOST GUYS LIKE VICK SEEM TO FORGET , THERE IS A SENSE OF KARMA , AND FOR EVERY SOUL , FOUR EVERY DOG , THAT WAS TAKEN BY HIS HAND , IS A SOUL , THAT HAD A LIFE , WOULD HATE TO BE IN YOUR SHOES , MR VICK

  • Kris

    The problem with animal ccruelty is that the laws suck! I know from personal experiance that going to Illinois Dept.of Agriculture is a shame. The investigators are useless and the Higher Ups are worse. What a shame that your average citizen can't do anything to close a licenced shelter even tho it is nothing it claims to be. Anyone that can help us pleawwe check out closepetrescueInc.blogspot.com
    Any lawyers that want to help our group probono pleaselet us know. we have already paid over 10 thousand and when we ran out of money we lost the attorney,

  • mary

    you are the scum of all scum vick.. I would not even spit on you and i hope the dogs you tormented and violently crucified come back to haunt you when you close your eyes at night.

  • mary

    you are the scum of all scum vick.. I would not even spit on you and i hope the dogs you tormented and violently crucified come back to haunt you when you close your eyes at night.

  • mary

    you are the scum of all scum vick.. I would not even spit on you and i hope the dogs you tormented and violently crucified come back to haunt you when you close your eyes at night.

  • FUCK VICK

    I WANT SO BADLY TO SEE A GANG OF PITBULLS RUN OF THE FIELD WHILE VICK IS PLAYING AND VICIOUSLY ATTACK HIM, AND HOPEFULLY KILL HIM LIKE HE DID TO SO MANY. HOPEFULLY ONE DAY HE WILL GET ATTACKED BY PITBULL TO KNOW LITTLE, HENSE A LITTLE OF HOW THOSE DOGS FELT, IF THEY KILL HIM, THEN HE WILL KNOW EXACTLY HOW THEY FELT.

    • Michael Vick

      Fuck you he’s the best damn quarterback ever he paid his debts you just want to fit in but dude it happened more than like 2 years ago lay off you jackass

      • Anna92680

        you are an asshole. Any person that can arrange such cruel behavior is capable of much much more. How would you like it if he had one his dogs kill your family dick head. I hate you!!! you will get yours!!

        • vman

          how the fuck are you retards defending that sick asshole knowing what he did? I think he should have done at least triple the amount of time he did sitting behind bars. Demented fucks like him must be taught a lesson. And if he is ever caught again fighting dogs, then I’m all for him being ripped apart by pitbulls.

      • Kkdkkkd

        you layoff how”d u like it if did that shit to your ass!!!

    • vick rocks~

      you dumb i hope you fucking get attack buy a pack of fags who fuck the hell out off your ass hole!

  • Jazmentaylor

    pits are awsome and the most delicate creatures.if a human is brutal to a pit,then dont excpect it to be all happy and glorious about it!!!

  • Pitbull lover!!!

    You people out there who think it is cool to dog fight…. go to hell and burn……. You are putting these dogs through torture in which they deserve for WHAT?!?!?!?!?!?!?!……. NOTHING THATS WHAT.. so whenever you see a dog fight stop it you may save a dogs life!

  • David Matney

    Michael Vick needs to be in there for life. Pit’s are great dogs, people misunderstand mistreated for behavior. the dogs are actually very lovable and playful, as far as ive seen. mine, i will say does try to wrap its jaws around your neck, arm, or hand PLAYFULLY. i know the dogs strength, and he is merely putting his mouth over me. im not scared of him. but these dogs are made violent by the owners, NOT NATUALLY!!!

  • Kat I

    Thanks for the overview. People like that deserve time behind bars.

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