March 25, 2007

An Update on Dep. Gilmer Hernandez (VIDEO)

by MsUnderestimated — Categories: Are You Kidding Me?, Illegal Immigration, Just Plain Wrong, Video86 Comments

America’s Most Wanted gave us a sad update on Deputy Gilmer Hernandez. You might remember, Gilmer Hernandez is a deputy who shot at the tires of a vehicle full of illegal immigrants after they tried to run him over, and one female stow-away took one through the cheek and mouth. So what’s the problem? I don’t see one. She shouldn’t have been a stow-away in the first place.

Enter U.S. Attorney, Johnny Sutton, who also prosecutted BP Agents, Ramos and Campeon. This guy has to be stopped. This is beyond ludicrious, and if you watch him speak, you’ll realize what the problem is. It’s Johnny Sutton.

Watch the update here.

  • Cameron

    Good grief Sonnabend, the crime rate among the illegal community is as a percentage is less than in the general population as a whole, look it up. Let them come here legally? We agree, you are likely to dense to figure out why. Seems simple to you does it? Well I’m guessing most things seem simple to you, simple solutions for simple minds.

    Sodding off now simpleton.

  • http://www.ogresview.mu.nu Ogre

    You are still simply wrong. You stated again that this woman was shot for the crime of illegal immigration. That is simply NOT true. She was shot because she was a participant in an attempt to take someone’s life. No one stood up and said, “Gee, that person is an illegal immigrant, I think I’ll shoot her.” The person was defending their own life. Whether she was a willing or active participant in the action to attempt to murder someone is not relevant — she was a participant. She was shot because SHE put herself in a dangerous position. She was shot because SHE chose to participate in an attempt to murder someone.

    In addition, you have no evidence that she wanted to come here to work. She may have come here because she had a broken arm and wanted free medical treatment. She may have been hungry and wanted to sign up for food stamps. She may have come because her cousin told her that she could get a nice free house if she signed up in the right place. To claim that every illegal immigrant from Mexico is here to work is completely ignorant of reality.

    And once again, they are invading this country. They are attempting to come into this country, break the laws, and set up their own country here. They have no desire to assimilate and join America. They have no desire to learn the traditions and culture of America — instead they want to impose their culture and traditions on this country. That’s exactly how you invade and take over a country. Once again, just because you claim it’s not so, doesn’t make it not true. Open your eyes and see the demands for “Reconquista” and for taking, by force, much of the southwestern United States back to Mexican rule. Look and see the demands that services and government processes be done in their own language. They ARE invading. They ARE trying to take over. I’m truly sorry that you cannot see that.

  • http://didgeman.wordpress.com Sonnabend

    Good grief Sonnabend, the crime rate among the illegal community is as a percentage is less than in the general population as a whole, look it up.

    Yet had they not been there to commit those crimes the statistics would be lower.

    And a Marine would now be cradling his son rather than lying in his grave, the victim of a drunk illegal in a stolen car.

    Let them come here legally? We agree, you are likely to dense to figure out why

    Yet you seem too dense to actually deal with the facts I have presented rather than the nice liberal ad hominem.

    Goldwater conservative…suuure you are

    Well I’m guessing most things seem simple to you, simple solutions for simple minds.

    The concept of not breaking the law is too simplistic?? Funny, to me it always seemed like basic common sense.

    Sodding off now simpleton.

    Don’t let the door smack you on the ass on the way out.

  • Cameron

    SC&A Vent

    May 17th, 2006

    The time has come once more for SC&A to unload.

    We don’t care who we insult or who takes offense. Unlike the other
    brilliant therapists who regulary blog, we are dead and thus don’t
    give a rats ass about what you think. Further, we are smarter than
    you, better looking than you and the object of desire of many fabulous
    and good looking women. For you whiny bastards out there, we concede
    you look nice in your pink shirt, yellow paisley tie and dress flip
    flop with tassels.
    Onwards.

    Let’s get real about immigration. The same cheap ass bigotry that is
    on display today in much of the right wing blogosphere, predates you.
    That’s right- your high minded bigotry, couched as ‘concern,’ is
    nothing new.

    When the Irish Catholics came off the boat in New York, escaping from
    famine and certain death, high minded Americans beat the crap out of
    them because the freakin’ Catholic papist evil bastards were going to
    ruin the country.

    When the Italians and the Jews got off the boat in New York, there
    were those who met them at the docks and welcomed them with baseball
    bats- literally. Why? Because the damn Jews and more papist evil
    bastards Italians were going to ruin America. Later migrations of
    other ethnic groups were met with similar experiences. If the welcome
    in New York wasn’t enough, that human flotsam that boarded trains to
    middle America had it even worse. There was no ‘neighborhood,’ there
    was not much of an immigrant community to find refuge. Immigrants to
    these shores faced hatred and bigotry that was unimaginable. Some of
    this fine and caring ‘immigrant aid societies’ sold children into
    servitude in the midwest (Norman Rockwell never got around to painting
    pictures of Italian and Irish kids being beaten and worked like farm
    animals), to never again see their parents. There are countless,
    similar stories, but they are irrelevant. The only saving grace this
    country had is the truth that Europeans were even crueler and in other
    parts of the world, the kafir was treated even worse.

    Incredibly, immigrants survived despite the bigotry of many of this
    country’s citizens. Now, pay attanetion lefties and stop touching
    yourselves. Your as racist and bigoted as any on the left. We’ll get
    to your sorry and miserable asses later. As for the Hispanics reading
    this, stuck around- your turn to be insulted is coming.

    Here’s the deal- Hispanic immigrants aren’t going to ruin America. You
    know why? Because they come here as ‘wretched refuse.’ They have no
    other place to go. They see the buffet and smorgasbord of
    possibilities and are willing to work for their share. That has always
    been the American way. Now, pay attention because we are going to
    repeat ourselves because you sorry ass morons didn’t pay attention the
    first time.

    We wrote of an experience we had in Europe, a place we know well.

    …He then went on to ask me why we thought Europeans were so anti
    American. We gave him an answer that to this day, defines a good part
    of our view of European anti Americanism. We went on to explain.
    Europeans, we said, dislike Americans because, in a short period of
    human history, went on to surpass Europe in being the center of global
    influence. What was even worse, was that America was built by European
    ‘garbage’ as we put it. He started to object, but we immediately
    interrupted.

    We went on to explain that a century ago, Europe was only too
    happy to rid itself of the ‘wretched refuse’ and ‘teeming masses’. The
    European elite and intellectuals thought that once rid of the annoying
    and newly demanding ‘unwashed’ peasant class, Europe would once again
    regain it’s rightful place as the center of the moral and political
    world, and thus preserve the imperialist relationships they had
    established, if not formally, then by necessity. Through benevolent
    noblesse oblige, Europe would assume control the economic and
    political fate of the ‘lesser’ nations. Without masses of lower
    classes, now demanding equitable political participation, Europe’s
    destiny would be assured. America, that upstart, would be relegated to
    it’s proper position- that of being subservient to Europe, no more
    than a source of cheap raw materials for what must be the dominant
    European economic model. He was intrigued.

    We went on to explain further. Europe, we said, never got over the
    fact that, unleashed, those ‘wretched refuse’ and ‘huddled masses’-
    their very own- went on to build success not only for themselves, but
    for their adopted country as well. We said that these unwanted masses
    of people understood what the elite and intellectuals of Europe never
    understood for themselves– that given the opportunity, they were
    perfectly able to fend for themselves, succeed and even excel. Thus,
    the European ‘refuse’ become proud and worthy pillars in the
    community. Their worth and contributions to the American mosaic was
    far more than what the Europeans had exploited them for. Europe had
    made a mistake by sending off it’s most abundant natural resource,
    it’s own sons and daughters. All had been willing to work- and then
    some, had they been given the chance. Europe had squandered it’s best
    and most precious resource- a population ready to do it’s best, in
    exchange for equal opportunity.

    Here’s the reality horse pill- Hispanic immigrants are no different
    than European immigrants. Yes, they want to have neighborhood grocery
    stores that stock food from home and they want to have dry cleaners
    that explain the spot removal process to them in their own language.
    So what? In New York, there are dry cleaners who speak Chinese, others
    who speak Italian and still others that will unload invectives in
    Yiddish. Spanish speaking dry cleaners will not sink the ocean liner
    that is America. Besides, as that Hispanic grows out of the
    neighborhood- and into your four cubits- the kid behind the counter
    will be going to night school, studying engineering, or law. Be nice-
    you might need his services one day.

    Hispanics also want to educate their kids and build a future for their
    families. They want o get educated and build businesses. Worried about
    crime? Well, the Irish ‘westies’ were not much different than the
    Italian mob- and they weren’t much different from the Jewish
    gangsters. They were crooks, all of them and for the most part, got
    what they deserved. That didn’t stop those immigrant communities from
    growing, assimilating and contributing to the American tapestry.

    Here’s another unspoken secret. In their drive to become ‘good
    Americans,’ most immigrants have always been ashamed of their criminal
    classes- and in fact, went out of their way to be better than average.
    They had something to prove. That’s why Irish beat cops beat the crap
    out of little red headed boys that stole apples. The cop didn’t really
    care about the kids. He cared that the kid’s mother and family would
    be ashamed. The Irish weren’t all shanty, you know. Italian family
    females were more formidable than most weapons of mass destruction.
    There was an mother, grandmother, aunt or cousin to keep you in line-
    and they didn’t have to be related to you. Success in Little Italy was
    a community event. Jewish immigrant parents made sure it was
    understood that primary education ended with a Bachelor’s degree. A
    graduate degree was OK, but a doctorate was preferable. If you weren’t
    so inclined, that was OK, too. It didn’t matter if mama died a few
    years early, of grief.

    There are mothers, fathers and children in the Hispanic community that
    have Irish, Italian and Jewish traits. For those of you who are
    wondering why I didn’t mention Greeks or Bolivians, be assured that
    you are idiots.

    The lefties are as much racist and bigoted as those on the right- they
    just pretend they aren’t. They don’t care about helping people or
    doing the right thing. If they did, they would not be so anxious to
    see Iraq distintegrate in chaos and death- in fact, they care about
    people so much, they can hardly wait for that to happen. Why? Because
    dead Iraqis, raped Iraqis and butchered Kurds aren’t as important as
    ‘getting Bush.’ Shut up, lefty that’s what it’s about- and everybody
    knows it. If left gave a damn about our nations security, there would
    be, as The Anchoress once noted, serious discussions with serious
    people. Here we are, in a post 9/11 world and ‘BusHitler!’ is thought
    to be considered opinion. Here we are in a post 9/11 world and
    mainstream media treats an absolute whack job like Cindy Sheehan as if
    she were relevant to any serious discussion, anywhere.

    If the left really gave a damn, they would have addressed issues of
    poverty and education in minority communities. Instead, the left have
    been the principal reason why black Americans are still on the
    plantation- a plantation built and funded by ‘caring’ lefties. The
    left has usurped the drive, ambitions and dreams of black Americans.
    Why? Because ‘guvamint cheeez’ buys votes, that’s why. The left
    supports teacher unions that refuse to allow teachers to be tested for
    subject competency. That’s right- who cares if poor, minority kids can
    read. In fact, it’s better if they can’t. Don’t turn your nose up like
    that- it is that simple.

    Why do you suppose there is a knee jerk reaction to any black preacher
    or leader that publicly says welfare is a bad thing? Why do you
    suppose there is a knee jerk reaction when a black preacher or
    minister rails against teenage pregnancy? What is so conservative
    about that? Why do you suppose some black teachers have to fight to
    teach responsibility and accountability in classrooms?

    Ask Mamacita about schools and kids. She has plenty to say. She’s
    spent decades in the classroom and has impacted more lives,
    intimately, than the Pope. She fights your impaired and TV induced
    coma kids (you don’t parent because it’s so stressful) and she fights
    a school system and school board that serve as vehicle for providing
    VIP welfare- a county expense account. Show us a parent who is truly
    concerned about educating their children and you’ll find an adult
    insulted that that they would be paid for doing what they are supposed
    to do. Why the hell are school board members paid? Do teachers who buy
    supplies and spend hours after school tutoring kids, get extra money?
    What about those texbook publishers kickbacks and perks? Think any of
    that is passed around by school board members?

    Lastly, a word to the loudmouth Hispanics (fortunately, a minority)
    reading this: You aren’t special, you aren’t important and neither
    California or Texas will be ceded back to Mexico. You can be just as
    racist and obnoxious as anyone else. Just because some little anglo
    bimbo named Tiffany is impressed with your ability to recite nursery
    rhymes in Spanish and pass it it off as literature, is irrelevant. You
    are average, in every sense of the word. Your machismo means nothing
    to most of us. One more thing- Che Gueverra was not a hero. He was an
    evil, sick bastard and the whole world knows it

    If you choose, you can work and make a life for yourselves and your
    families. You have the opportunity to add to the American tapestry. As
    is the case with most immigrants, you can adopt America and American
    values into your hearts. If you choose not to, that’s OK, too, because
    in a generation or two, your kids will be Americans, no matter how
    hard you try to ignore or prevent that.

    You came here illegally- just like millions before you. It is your
    misfortune to live in a era of computers. Deal with it. Play by the
    rules, do what the government asks and do it legally. If you do, you
    will get your shot. No, you will not be given immediate citizenship
    and the right to vote. Why? Because in America, those are things you
    earn.

    No matter how many Hispanic illegal aliens are here, America will not
    become Mexico. Every town has computers, decent police forces and fair
    judges, unlike the places you came from. Play by the rules, and you’ll
    never have to fear the authorities.

    We have more to say, but as it is, this post is too long. Our next
    post will address those of you that aren’t happy the President of the
    United States isn’t responding to your selfish and narcissistic needs.

    We can only hope you’ve learned something. It’s a long shot, we know,
    but we are Americans- and we are an optimistic lot.

  • http://www.ogresview.mu.nu Ogre

    What a copy-and-paste strawman load of crap.

    All those immigrants listed CAME HERE LEGALLY! THEY DIDN’T BREAK THE LAW TO COME HERE. For some reason, you just don’t want to understand that.

    In addition, those immigrants came here TO JOIN THE US. They wanted to learn to be American. They wanted to assimilate and become American. Today’s Mexican immigrants DO NOT.

    The immigrants in generations past ASKED FOR NOTHING! They did not get free houses. They did not get free money. They did not get free education. They did not get free medical care. They worked for everything they got.

    You don’t want to see the truth. You want to support the destruction of America. Just be honest about it.

  • Cameron

    The destruction of America? Got your baseball bat handy?

  • http://caosblog.com Cao

    What the hell did 'got your baseball bat handy' mean?

    Liberals are quite simply; stupid, in sane, and have no logical arguments except to prop the victim time and again.

    As far as I know, riding in the trunk of a car is illegal, too; not to mention that the man driving the car was trying to run over Hernandez.

    What part about Hernandez shooting in self defense do you not understand?

    I guess you don't agree with someone defending himself; Hernandez should have just let the illegals run him over then?

  • http://caosblog.com Cao

    What the hell did ‘got your baseball bat handy’ mean?

    Liberals are quite simply; stupid, in sane, and have no logical arguments except to prop the victim time and again.

    As far as I know, riding in the trunk of a car is illegal, too; not to mention that the man driving the car was trying to run over Hernandez.

    What part about Hernandez shooting in self defense do you not understand?

    I guess you don’t agree with someone defending himself; Hernandez should have just let the illegals run him over then?

  • http://rantburg.com Icerigger

    Moonbats out thick today. Cop almost gets run over, shoots out a tire, criminal gets hurt, Sutton prosecutes a cop for doing his job. To quote MS, what's the problem.

    The problem is Americans who hate the cops and love criminals more than the law that protects this country's citizens.

    By the way how the hell can can a cop who shoots out a tire be convicted of using deadly force?! Both Sutton and the judge should be debarred.

    New flash to the liberal trolls. One third of felons in our Federal prison system are non-citizens. Deal with it than crawl back under your bridge.

    MU this is your site. Don't feel obligated to explain yourself to the idiots. It's like debating a bumbersticker. Delete their post. It's the only way to deal with trolls.

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  • Cameron

    ya that's the way to go Icebrigger defeat that which you can't deal with honestly don't want any diversity of thought heaven forfend. With that comment you betrayed yourself as the real moonbat.

  • donbeliever

    You've totally exposed yourself Camoron. Your a lift-wing, moon-bat troll. A whacked out lib that fancies him self as a giant among mental migets. Do as Icerigger says, and crawl back under your bridge.

  • http://rantburg.com Icerigger

    Moonbats out thick today. Cop almost gets run over, shoots out a tire, criminal gets hurt, Sutton prosecutes a cop for doing his job. To quote MS, what’s the problem.

    The problem is Americans who hate the cops and love criminals more than the law that protects this country’s citizens.

    By the way how the hell can can a cop who shoots out a tire be convicted of using deadly force?! Both Sutton and the judge should be debarred.

    New flash to the liberal trolls. One third of felons in our Federal prison system are non-citizens. Deal with it than crawl back under your bridge.

    MU this is your site. Don’t feel obligated to explain yourself to the idiots. It’s like debating a bumbersticker. Delete their post. It’s the only way to deal with trolls.

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  • Cameron

    ya that’s the way to go Icebrigger defeat that which you can’t deal with honestly don’t want any diversity of thought heaven forfend. With that comment you betrayed yourself as the real moonbat.

  • donbeliever

    You’ve totally exposed yourself Camoron. Your a lift-wing, moon-bat troll. A whacked out lib that fancies him self as a giant among mental migets. Do as Icerigger says, and crawl back under your bridge.

  • http://didgeman.wordpress.com Sonnabend

    Cameron

    I'll keep you in mind the next time I make a comment about global warming being a load of crap and being labelled a holocaust denier.

    The left is about “free speech for me and none for thee”

    Why are you still here?

  • http://didgeman.wordpress.com Sonnabend

    Cameron

    I’ll keep you in mind the next time I make a comment about global warming being a load of crap and being labelled a holocaust denier.

    The left is about “free speech for me and none for thee”

    Why are you still here?

  • Cameron

    No I've not exposed myself as a left wing moonbat Hahaha I've been using the term since before you likely even knew where it came from. Check out Samizdat some time when you get a chance. Much like the gorbal warming idiots you idiots want to pretend that to be a conservative one needs to endorse your bigotry, sorry that isn't the case. You and those that think like you are the pretenders.

  • Cameron

    No I’ve not exposed myself as a left wing moonbat Hahaha I’ve been using the term since before you likely even knew where it came from. Check out Samizdat some time when you get a chance. Much like the gorbal warming idiots you idiots want to pretend that to be a conservative one needs to endorse your bigotry, sorry that isn’t the case. You and those that think like you are the pretenders.

  • donbeliever

    Hey camoron, have you ever played “monkey in the middle”?

  • donbeliever

    Hey camoron, have you ever played “monkey in the middle”?

  • Cameron

    This is what your hate leads, proud of yourselves?

    PHOENIX (Reuters) – Unknown gunmen fired on a truck packed with suspected illegal immigrants in southern Arizona early on Friday, killing two people and wounding a third, police said.

    The gunmen killed a man and a woman traveling in a pickup truck near Green Valley, some 30 miles south of Tucson, Pima County Sheriff's Department said.

    Spokeswoman Dawn Barkman said the dead were believed to be Mexican immigrants traveling with three family groups from the poor southern Mexican state of Chiapas.

    Barkman said two children were among at least 14 people packed into the extended-cab pickup truck.

  • Hispanic female

    Camron,

    What are you doing in the U.S.-why not move to Mexico. See how far you can get away with there government or lack off. People commit a crime when coming illegally, is that news to you as well? Also, just incase you didn't know there are jobs in Mexico as well? I know, I have family memebers who live in Mexico and wouldn't have it any other way (good for them). It's the handed down benefits that illegal people are seeking everything from tax payer $ to free education, to food stamps, welfare, medicaid, housing, and the list goes on….. If your going to do something do it right and the legal way. ONE MORE THING. When you read the article (starting to think you didn't with all the false information that your throwing around) what did you think when it mentioned that the they tried to run over the deputy? What about his life, his family, his baby daughter, his community, his friends, and $20k annual income (yeah that's it)to keep the family above water? Yeah protecting his community and his life; for some illegals to do this to a innocent young,fine man. If you want a example of a hispanic struggling with 3-4 part time jobs to help his widow mom with bills and paying his way through college, it's this deputy. What do you think about that. He to struggled to have what he had, and didn't have to do anything illegally. It's all doing what's right. But you know what I'll say a prayer for you, because you need it.

  • Cameron

    This is what your hate leads, proud of yourselves?

    PHOENIX (Reuters) – Unknown gunmen fired on a truck packed with suspected illegal immigrants in southern Arizona early on Friday, killing two people and wounding a third, police said.

    The gunmen killed a man and a woman traveling in a pickup truck near Green Valley, some 30 miles south of Tucson, Pima County Sheriff’s Department said.

    Spokeswoman Dawn Barkman said the dead were believed to be Mexican immigrants traveling with three family groups from the poor southern Mexican state of Chiapas.

    Barkman said two children were among at least 14 people packed into the extended-cab pickup truck.

  • Hispanic female

    Camron,

    What are you doing in the U.S.-why not move to Mexico. See how far you can get away with there government or lack off. People commit a crime when coming illegally, is that news to you as well? Also, just incase you didn’t know there are jobs in Mexico as well? I know, I have family memebers who live in Mexico and wouldn’t have it any other way (good for them). It’s the handed down benefits that illegal people are seeking everything from tax payer $ to free education, to food stamps, welfare, medicaid, housing, and the list goes on….. If your going to do something do it right and the legal way. ONE MORE THING. When you read the article (starting to think you didn’t with all the false information that your throwing around) what did you think when it mentioned that the they tried to run over the deputy? What about his life, his family, his baby daughter, his community, his friends, and $20k annual income (yeah that’s it)to keep the family above water? Yeah protecting his community and his life; for some illegals to do this to a innocent young,fine man. If you want a example of a hispanic struggling with 3-4 part time jobs to help his widow mom with bills and paying his way through college, it’s this deputy. What do you think about that. He to struggled to have what he had, and didn’t have to do anything illegally. It’s all doing what’s right. But you know what I’ll say a prayer for you, because you need it.

  • http://www.msunderestimated.com MsUnderestimated

    Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like
    calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed
    pharmacist.”

  • http://www.msunderestimated.com MsUnderestimated

    Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like
    calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed
    pharmacist.”

  • Hispanic female

    Just so that everyone is up to date. Look like the illegal criminals tried to sue for 1.5 million. However, the settle amount was $100,000. I wonder if they will file that one their taxes. OH yeah I forget they don't file taxes.

  • Hispanic female

    Just so that everyone is up to date. Look like the illegal criminals tried to sue for 1.5 million. However, the settle amount was $100,000. I wonder if they will file that one their taxes. OH yeah I forget they don’t file taxes.

  • jonny the american

    THE DAMN SPIC SHOULDA STOPPED IT'S THEIR OWN FUCKING FAULT FREE THE OFFICER!!!

  • jonny the american

    RESPONDING 2 #3 CAMERON WTF SHE SHOULD'VE COME IN LEGALLY ITS THE BITCHES FAULT!!!

  • jonny the american

    Exaclty what #7 said cameron…DEE DEE DEE

  • jonny the american

    THE DAMN SPIC SHOULDA STOPPED IT’S THEIR OWN FUCKING FAULT FREE THE OFFICER!!!

  • jonny the american

    RESPONDING 2 #3 CAMERON WTF SHE SHOULD’VE COME IN LEGALLY ITS THE BITCHES FAULT!!!

  • jonny the american

    Exaclty what #7 said cameron…DEE DEE DEE

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