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June 4, 2006

It’s Still Alive!

by MsUnderestimated — Categories: FairTax20 Comments

Folks, I told you about the good news Congressman John Linder gave us about an impending face-to-face with President Bush about the Fair Tax, and now the word is out! The Gwinnett Daily Post catches us up on this great news:

FairTax still kicking

Many political observers were ready to bury U.S. Rep. John Linder’s FairTax bill last fall when President Bush’s tax reform commission gave the back of its hand to the proposed national sales tax.

The panel chose to recommend tweaking the current income tax system rather than such a dramatic overhaul of the way the federal government collects the revenue it needs to operate.

But the FairTax won’t go away. During a raucous public rally in Gwinnett County last month in support of the legislation, Linder, R-Duluth, announced that he is being offered an opportunity to present the bill to the president and House Republican leaders.

He will meet this week with the House GOP leadership, then head to the White House on a date yet to be set — accompanied by House Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Ill. — to outline his bill to Bush.

So much for the demise of the FairTax.

“The national sales tax is very much like Freddy,’’ said University of Virginia political scientist Larry Sabato, referring to the main character in countless installments of the “Nightmare on Elm Street” horror movie series. “It just refuses to die.’’

See? I TOLD you so! It’s POSSIBLE! And that’s not all – the Gwinnett Rally was just the beginning:

A capacity crowd of 4,500 jammed the Gwinnett Convention Center for last month’s rally, which featured Linder, Atlanta-based syndicated radio talk show host Neal Boortz and Sean Hannity of the Fox Television Network.

“We think there were 3,000 people turned away,’’ Linder said. “I was amazed.’’

The event was so successful that Linder and Boortz are talking about following it up with a series of rallies. Linder said they’re looking at Orlando, Fla., as the next stop.

Okay you guys, here’s your next chance. We gotta stick together and make this happen. If you live in the southeast (or anywhere else, for that matter), I urge you to call your local radio talk shows and implore them to get Neal Boortz, John Linder, Sean Hannity, and whoever else is on board with the Fair Tax, to come hold a rally in YOUR area! If we keep up this momentum, this could truly be a present-day Boston Tea Party that we have on our hands. It’s time to get the government out of our lives, and as John Linder said that night “it’s none of the government’s business how much money I make.” YES!

We’ve got to be vigilant, though, as well all know there are those detractors out there who want to stop us:

The FairTax also faces competition from other proposals aimed at overhauling the current system, including the flat tax on incomes once championed on the presidential campaign trail by Republican Steve Forbes.

“The vast majority agree the tax code needs drastic revision,’’ Sabato said. “The problem is nobody agrees on what the revision should be. … There just isn’t a national consensus for it or anything close to it.’’

But Sabato gives Linder high marks for persistence.

“He is trying to plant the seed,’’ Sabato said. “Who knows whether the seed may sprout and even flower? On the other hand, the seed may die in the ground.’’

My friends, we can’t let that seed die in the ground. We must keep nourishing it with our voices. If we can get 1, 2, 4 or 50 more rallies like this going, we will send a loud and clear message to Washington: “I WANT MY FAIR TAX!”

Also, send these radio stations copies of the Fair Tax book. I know it has been previously called for us to send copies to our representatives, but I’m sure they’ve gotten their copies already. It’s the people of this country we need to change – the Congress is hopeless. If your local talk show hosts can believe in this, then this movement will carry forward. You can buy them here. The government cannot ignore an informed country. The time is now!

 

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  • jainphx

    I agree with all you say,the fair tax’s time has come the brutal income tax must be repealed. thank you for your efforts.

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  • http://usafoundingfathers.blogspot.com/2006/03/founding-fathers-original-tax-plan.html john w k
  • http://www.msunderestimated.com MsUnderestimated

    JWK, you can rant all you want against the Fair Tax. The single most defining thing is that most opponents of the Fair Tax have either: 1) not even read the Fair Tax book; and/or 2) are quoting the Fair Tax DIFFERENTLY than it is written. Either one of those scenarios disqualifies you from having an argument worth reading.

    Ms. U

  • http://usafoundingfathers.blogspot.com/2006/03/founding-fathers-original-tax-plan.html john w k

    My goodness Ms U

    That’s one heck of a rebuttal to the arguments presented in a MESSAGE TO FAIR TAX RALLY PARTICIPANTS Simply call it a rant and make an unsubstantiated claim.

    Perhaps you wish to expand somewhat on your assertion?

    Waiting…….still waiting…….

    Regards,

    JWK
    ACRS

  • http://www.righttrack.us TD

    JWK, why not post your arguments here, in this forum? Are you just trolling for traffic? I came here to visit Ms.Underestimated’s site, and have no desire to be directed away from it. If your arguements have merit, please post them here where we can discuss them. If not, then don’t. Incidentally, visit this blog on Wednesday, June 28th. The next FairTax Blogburst post will debunk a few of your “FairTax debunking” myths. Go for the gold, hotshot.

    TD

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  • http://usafoundingfathers.blogspot.com/2006/03/founding-fathers-original-tax-plan.html john w k

    In answer to TD’s post 15 above, I posted links to arguments against H.R. 25 rather than post the particular arguments in their entirety as a courtesy to not flood another’s web page. But since you present a challenge, how about debunking the following argument concerning the socialist friendly, big government friendly H.R. 25 tax proposal?

    H.R. 25 proposes to create a massive redistribution tax plan under its family consumption entitlement.

    Heck, even the President’s Advisory Panel on Tax Reform identified the family consumption allowance as an “entitlement” program…the largest entitlement program in America [if H.R. 25 should pass] costing about $ 600 billion per year which would make Hillary Health Care look like chicken feed!

    The panel found in its conclusion:

    “Like other consumption taxes, the full replacement retail sales tax has pro-retail growth features. Nevertheless, the Panel does not recommend a full replacement retail sales tax. Without a large cash grant program to ease the burden of the tax, a retail sales tax would not be appropriately progressive. A cash grant program to make the tax appropriately progressive would cost at least $600 billion per year – which would make it America’s largest entitlement program. The Panel concluded that it was inappropriate to recommend a tax reform proposal that required the federal government to collect and redistribute this amount in additional revenue from taxpayers. The Panel also was concerned with administrative and compliance issues associated with a retail sales tax, as well as difficulties involving coordination with existing state sales taxes.”

    The unavoidable truth is, the family consumption allowance entitles those who do not work for a living and do not contribute into the common treasury to receive the allowance. Drug dealers and drug addicts are entitled to the allowance; burglars, armed robbers and car thieves are also entitled to the allowance; prostitutes and bookies and, even your local un-wed welfare moms who stay at home, do not contribute into the common treasury but make babies to increase their current monthly welfare check, are entitled to the allowance. As a matter of fact the above would be getting an approximate $400 per month bonus under H.R. 25 for either breaking the law or sitting at home making babies. Why on earth would a freedom loving American support H.R. 25?

    The family consumption allowance happens to be a socialist windfall to the slugs and leaches in our society, and, would be a gift to Senator Ted Socialist Kennedy and his disciples in Congress who would gladly promise to increase the family consumption allowance during elections to buy votes and remain in power!

    Can you picture Ted Socialist Kennedy on the Senate Floor giving a speech to increase the family consumption allowance to offset the tax on the necessities of life?

    How dare those who have imposed H.R. 25 on our nation’s poor, now refuse to increase the family consumption allowance to relieve the oppressive nature of a tax which taxes the food a mother buys to feed her child, taxes the clothing she purchases to cloth that child, taxes the fuel used to heat that child’s room during winter, taxes the medicine a mother needs to care for a sickly child, and then taxes the coffin used to bury her child because she could not afford the taxes imposed upon other necessities of life under H.R. 25!

    The family consumption allowance would create a new and very dangerous voting constituency dependant upon government for a monthly government check. Why in the world would any freedom loving person support such a plan over our founding fathers original tax plan?

    NEWSFLASH!

    The ACLU filed a class action suit in federal court today on behalf of five hundred inmates in the Skunks Hollow County Jail who are demanding they receive the $400. per month family consumption allowance under H.R. 25 to offset the 23 percent tax they pay on articles purchased at their jailhouse commissary, and pay on other articles purchased through the mail.

    A spokesman for the ACLU claimed the family consumption allowance being excluded to inmates under a provision of H.R. 25, simply because they are in jail, is a violation of equal protection of the law.

    The Judge, Lefty Leftotwit, told the Attorney General who is defending the exclusion of the allowance to inmates, that he is inclined to rule in favor of the inmates and sees no reason why inmates should be subject to different tax law simply because they are inmates. The Constitution requires the uniformity of such taxes and until the Constitution is amended, he stated, his hands are bound by the Constitution and it appears each inmate is entitled to the $400 per month allowance.

    Judge Leftotwit gave the Attorney General two weeks to prepare a brief as to why federal tax law should apply differently in this case.

    Rumors were afloat that a lawyer named Boortz was being contacted by the Attorney General to assist in the case.

    Regards,

    JWK ___ a proud supporter of our founding father’s original tax reform plan.

    “To lay with one hand the power of the government on the property of the citizen and with the other to bestow upon favored individuals, to aid private enterprises and build up private fortunes is none the less a robbery because it is done under forms of law and called taxation.” ___Savings and Loan Assc. v. Topeka,(1875).

  • http://usafoundingfathers.blogspot.com/2006/03/founding-fathers-original-tax-plan.html john w k

    Surprise. H.R. 25 is not a consumption tax. H.R. 25 is a general, across-the-board tax among the states upon property to fill the national treasury , which our founding fathers provided the rule of apportionment to be applied to if such a tax were to be laid.

    H.R. 25 reads as follows:

    SEC. 101. IMPOSITION OF SALES TAX.

    `(a) IN GENERAL- There is hereby imposed a tax on the use or consumption in the United States of taxable property or services.

    `(b) Rate-

    `(1) FOR 2005- In the calendar year 2005, the rate of tax is 23 percent of the gross payments for the taxable property or service.

    H.R. 25 is an across-the-board 23 percent tax upon the value of property sold! A consumption tax identifies specifically chosen articles of consumption and then places a specific amount of tax on each specific article of consumption chosen for the tax.

    Here is a recent example of Congress taxing a specific article of consumption to high___ see: Fed luxury tax 1990

    Also see:

    1991 legislation to repeal the luxury excise tax on boats

    Had the tax only been 2 or 3 percent, if probably would have been paid without much resistance. But 10 percent was outrageous and so, the people avoided the article [boats] just as our founding fathers predicted!

    “It is a signal advantage of taxes on articles of consumption that they contain in their own nature a security against excess. They prescribe their own limit, which cannot be exceeded without defeating the end proposed – that is, an extension of the revenue.” See Federalist #21:

    The beauty of requiring Congress to select specific articles of consumption and limiting it to articles of luxury, as opposed to an across the board tax on the sale of property, is this___ if Congress does its job properly and the nation as a whole is productive and prosperous, the purchase of articles of luxury will undoubtedly increase, and with it, the flow of revenue into the common treasury. But, if the legislative policies of Congress are burdensome and its regulatory requirements upon business, industry and our nation’s labor force impede a flourishing economy, or any particular article is excessively taxed by Congress, the first sign would be is a decline in the flow of revenue into the national treasury, just as Hamilton explains above___ it prevents “an extension of the revenue.”

    H.R. 25 circumvents the self-regulating feature of taxing consumption as the founding fathers intended. In addition, the kind of tax described in H.R. 25, [a general tax among the states based upon the value of property] which was practiced under the Articles of Confederation, was debated during the framing of our Constitution and a rule was adopted required such a tax to be apportioned among the states, basing each state’s share of a total being collected upon its number of votes in Congress Assembled___ a rule which boils down to representation with proportional obligation, a rule which the friends of big government, and socialists dread with a passion!

    For documentation of what transpired during the Convention with regard to the tax in question see Republican tax reform attacks federalism,free market, and promotes democracy!

    Regards,

    JWK

  • http://usafoundingfathers.blogspot.com/2006/03/founding-fathers-original-tax-plan.html john w k

    A GENERAL MESSAGE TO ALL

    H.R. 25, in my opinion, is a socialist type of tax and violates a fundamental rule of our Constitution.

    I have provided irrefutable documentation in Republican Tax Reform Attacks Federalism, free market, and promotes democracy!
    that H.R. 25 violates the agreed upon rule by which the various states, under the Constitution, agreed to contribute in a general tax to fill the national treasury.

    Our founding fathers agreed during the Convention of 1787 to change the rule for a general tax from a tax based upon wealth, to a general tax among the states which tied representation and taxation together!

    Each state agreed, by its ratification of our Constitution, to pay a general tax based upon its voting strength which would insure that those states paying the lions share of the tax burden to fund the Constitutionally authorized functions of the federal government, would likewise have a proportional voice, equal to their financial contribution, in how their money would be spent.

    H.R. 25 ignores this important rule. H.R. 25, just as income taxation [ a Marxist type of tax], seeks to intentionally calculate the amount of tax to be paid from wealth, property and financial success ___ a political philosophy advocating from each state according to its ability, rather than an equal per capita tax apportioned among the states as the founding fathers intended and the various states agreed by their ratification of our Constitution.

    Why on earth would one support a tax proposal which would, just as income taxation now does, undermine and subjugate our founding fathers rule for a general tax among the states?

    Seems to me if a person is a sincere supporter of our Constitution and they want a fair system of taxation, they would, at the very least, demand a provision to be attached to H.R. 25 requiring the rule of apportionment to be observed when laying the H.R. 25 tax among the states. And, without such a rule being applied to the tax, they would not support H.R. 25 as it violates this important rule of fairness.

    Regards,

    JWK
    ACRS

    “In construing the Constitution we are compelled to give it such interpretation as will secure the result intended to be accomplished by those who framed it and the people who adopted it…A construction which would give the phrase…a meaning differing from the sense in which it was understood and employed by the people when they adopted the Constitution, would be as unconstitutional as a departure from the plain and express language of the Constitution.” _____Senate Report No. 21, 42nd Cong. 2d Session 2 (1872), reprinted in Alfred Avins, The Reconstruction Amendments’ Debates 571 (1967),

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